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Abbie Cox
30 Dec 2017 - 01:37
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Hello,

I was wondering if a nice, talented genealogist would be interested in translating the entry for 15 April 1787
https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn1066/churchbook/source7317/opslag2540461
 I am trying to find the birth/christening record of Albret Jensen b. 1787 in Glimstrup Sogn, Randers Amt (according to census records). He is my 4th great-grandfather. I don't have the name of his parents or his siblings, so I have been searching churchbooks in hopes of finding a lead. 

I see the names Ane Nielsdatter and Jens Albretsen mentioned in the entry as well as the name Albret underlined twice. 

Thank you so much for your help and knowledge. 

Best, 
Abbie Cox

P.S. I've included the information that brought me to this point in case it is any help. 

Possible birth of Albert Jensen, Randers Amt, Glimstrup sogn (could this be Glenstrup sogn?)

https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn1066/churchbook/source7317/opslag2540461

Entry: 15 April 1787 - The names Ane Nielsdatter and Abret are underlined

1845 Census for Albret Jensen: Hassing parish, Hassing, Thisted (mentions that his born place is Glimstrup sogn, Randers amt, 1787)

https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid5079520

1850 Census for Albrekt Jensen: Hassing parish, Hassing, Thisted (mentions that his born place is Glimstrup sogn, Randers amt, 1787)

https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid7916985

1852 Death Record for Albrecht Jensen: Hassing parish, Hassing Thisted (mentions he is from Randers and his father's name is Jens Jensen)

https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn1693/churchbook/source8768/opslag2856206

 
Britta Hansen
30 Dec 2017 - 15:14:24
Svar: Love Danish Family Search! Need Help with birth record from 1787

Hi Abbie,

I read the following in the entry of Albret https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/sogn1066/churchbook/source7317/opslag2540461

"Hjemmedøbt en omløben Qvindes Barn en Dreng og kaldet Albret, Qvin-

den som var kommen til Handest, Rytter… , var tagen til huuse

af gaardmand Søren Leth, i hvis huus om natten hun …,

om Morgenen derpaa var hun bragt i Lars Møllers huus

i Handest, hvor Barnet blev døbt, Da .. mødte for at døbe Bar-

net, var en Mand tilstede, som gav sig ud for at være ÆgteMand

til bemeldte Qvinde, og at hans Navn var Jens Albretsen og

Qvindens Navn var Ane Nielsdatter, … foregav at han

var Skomager, … i Bording, Hammerum …, at

… at de være Ægtefolk om faa dage

....................................................................

…. Cancellie Raad Lilienschjold i Randers under 16 April

blev bemeldte Qvindes Barn confirmeret i Daaben, men forinden har

Qvinden …., og anført Barnet at være uægte, og

avlet med en Krigs Karl."

 

The entry in the Military Levying Rolls in 1799 in Hassing Parish, Thisted County confirms that you found the right person:

Thisted 1799 G Tilgangsrulle 41_G63

The entry displays that his father was Jens Albretsen

He was born in Handest [which is in Glenstrup Parish] The place Handest is mentioned in the death record, too

Baptized on April 25, 87

 

Kind regards

Britta Hansen

 
Britta Hansen
30 Dec 2017 - 15:46:18
Svar: Love Danish Family Search! Need Help with birth record from 1787
"baptized at home the boy of a woman [who did not serve anywhere or lived in the parish] [omløbende means ‘løs-gænger

i.e. A servant/person without a job or residence]

who came to Handest and stayed at the place of Søren Leth, where she during the night [probably gave birth to a boy]

 

The next morning, she was brought to the house of Lars Møller in Handest, where the child was baptized.

When … came to baptize the child, a man was present. He claimed to be the husband of the woman in question,

and told them that his name was Jens Albretsen and the name of the woman was Ane Nielsdatter.

…pretended to be a shoemaker … in Bording, Hammerum..

and they were supposed to be married in a few days.

.....................

On April 16, the confirmation of the baptism took place,

Prior to the confirmation, the woman … and said that the child was illegitimate

and was beget with a soldier [his father was a soldier]"

Is Jens Albretsen actually his father? hm ....

Kind regards

Britta Hansen

Please review the Danish text and my translation, anybody reading this

 

 
Britta Hansen
30 Dec 2017 - 16:45:09
Svar: Love Danish Family Search! Need Help with birth record from 1787

Cancelliråd Lilienschjold was involved and a case can be found here - right side + next: Justitsprotokol, Nørhald-Støvring Hrdr.

 

You will find the meaning of the ref. Lov 6 B 13 Cap 29 http://www.krim.dk/undersider/historiske-regler/danske-lov-6-bog.pdf

 

6-13-29
Letfærdige Qvindfolk, som paa fremmede Stæder, hvor de Ubekiente ere, imod Tiden, at de skulle føde, sig begive, maa de, som dennem Huus laane, ikke efter deris Barnefødsel lade fra sig komme, førend de det Stædets Øvrighed have tilkiendegivet, paa det nøjagtig kand erfaris, hvo samme letfærdige Qvindfolk monne være, hvo deris Barnefader er, samt dislige Omstændigheder, som til Sagens Kundskab og Oplysning udkrævis, saa fremt de ej derfor paa deris yderste Formue ville straffis. Befindis Sognepræsten det ikke at give Øvrigheden og Herrets Provsten strax tilkiende, naar Barnet af hannem christnet er, da miste uden al Naade sit Kald

 

Britta Hansen

 
Abbie Cox
30 Dec 2017 - 22:24:19
Svar: Love Danish Family Search! Need Help with birth record from 1787

Hi Britta,

I reviewed this information with my father and sister this morning and we all would like to give you a big, "THANK YOU" from Omaha, Nebraska. This is quite the family mystery you have uncovered for us. I am looking forward to see what else we can find regarding Ane Nielsdatter and the "soldier."

I wanted to review the case, but for some reason I cannot get the link to work. Would you mind re-sending it? 

Cancelliråd Lilienschjold was involved and a case can be found here - right side + next: Justitsprotokol, Nørhald-Støvring Hrdr.

Again, many, many thanks and Happy New Year!

Abbie

 

 
Dimitri Hardorff
31 Dec 2017 - 00:00:58
Svar: Love Danish Family Search! Need Help with birth record from 1787
Britta, når du linker, må du gerne linke til DFS og ikke til andre hjemmesider, da dette forum ligger på DFS.
 
Britta Hansen
31 Dec 2017 - 01:57:08
Svar: Love Danish Family Search! Need Help with birth record from 1787

In English please, Dimitri.

I did not find Justitsprotokol on Danish Family Search. Pls. let me know where to find the records.

Kind regards

Britta Hansen

 

 
Dimitri Hardorff
31 Dec 2017 - 08:45:40
Svar: Love Danish Family Search! Need Help with birth record from 1787
Britta, when linking, please use links which are linking to DFS and not to other websites. After all it is a DFS website we're using.
 
Abbie Cox
6 Jan 2018 - 03:10:17
Svar: Love Danish Family Search! Need Help with birth record from 1787

Hi Again Britta,

 

I was able to access the case record. It looks quite extensive... I'm hoping that it includes information regarding where Ane Nielsdatter was from, her family, and the father of her child.  Did she get in trouble for having a child out of wedlock?

In your opinion, where would be the best place to have this translated?

 

Happy 2018!

Abbie Cox 

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